With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
|
CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
|
GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
|
DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
|
ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
|
Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
|
Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
|
Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
|
Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.
With the launch of their flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC firmly behind them now, Qualcomm this morning is popping their collective head in direction of the premium market with the launch of one other new Snapdragon 8 household SoC, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3. The primary of Qualcomm’s ‘s’-subseries of down-market components to be launched underneath the Snapdragon 8 banner, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (8sG3) is meant to be a bridge half between the last-gen flagship 8 Gen 2 and current-gen flagship 8 Gen 3, providing a not-quite-flagship expertise at a lower cost level than Qualcomm’s prime SoC. The brand new SoC is about to be accessible globally, with the primary telephones introduced this month, although as is commonly the case for Qualcomm’s “premium” market SoCs, it appears to be like like solely Chinese language handset OEMs will probably be choosing up the chip, no less than initially.
Though Qualcomm prefers to attract comparisons to their present gen flagship Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is by and enormous and enhanced model of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Most of the {hardware} blocks of the 8G2 have been carried over to the brand new chip – both in entire or by way of performance – a course of that’s made very simple because of the truth that Qualcomm is constructing the chip on the identical TSMC 4nm node because the 8G2 and 8G3. In comparison with the 8G2 then, there are two key differentiators for the 8sG3: a more moderen CPU advanced lifted from the 8G3, and official on-device generative AI help.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (SM8650) |
Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 (SM8635) |
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (SM8550) |
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CPU | 1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.3GHz 3x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A720 2x Cortex-A520 12MB sL3 |
1x Cortex-X4 @ 3.0GHz 4x Cortex-A720 3x Cortex-A520 |
1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz 2x Cortex-A715 2x Cortex-A710 4x Cortex-A510 8MB sL3 |
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GPU | Adreno ({Hardware} RT & World Illum.) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
Adreno ({Hardware} RT) |
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DSP / NPU | Hexagon | Hexagon | Hexagon | |
Reminiscence Controller |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4800MHz LPDDR5X / 76.8GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
4x 16-bit CH
@ 4200MHz LPDDR5X / 67.2GB/s |
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ISP/Digicam | Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 4K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
Triple 18-bit Spectra ISP
1x 200MP or 108MP with ZSL 8K HDR video & 64MP burst seize |
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Encode/ Decode |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
4K60 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 1080p240 SlowMo |
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265
H.265, VP9, AV1 Decoding Dolby Imaginative and prescient, HDR10+, HDR10, HLG 720p960 SlowMo |
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Built-in Radio |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.4 2×2 MIMO |
FastConnect 7800 Wi-FI 7 + BT 5.3 2×2 MIMO |
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Built-in Modem | X75 built-in 3GPP Rel 18 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
X70 built-in 3GPP Rel 17 (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave) |
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Mfc. Course of | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm | TSMC 4nm |
Beginning with the CPU advanced, Qualcomm is implementing Arm’s newest technology of Armv9 CPU cores right here, that means a mixture of the Cortex-X4, Cortex-A720, and Cortex-A520. Relative to the flagship 8G3, the 8sG3 offers up considered one of its efficiency cores for one more effectivity core, shifting the design from a 1/5/2 configuration to a 1/4/3 configuration – the identical because the 8G2. The 8SG2 additionally loses some frequency headroom within the course of, with the X4 prime core dropping from 3.3GHz to three.0GHz, and the opposite CPU cores following equally alongside.
Nonetheless, the 8sG3 ought to outperform the 8G2 in CPU duties, which is the first purpose for changing the CPU advanced in any respect. Qualcomm is principally seeking to supply an 8G2 with higher CPU efficiency and power effectivity, and utilizing Arm’s newest CPU cores will probably be how they ship on that.
Exterior of the CPU advanced, nevertheless, a lot of the remainder of the practical blocks are both lifted from the 8G2, or are the identical technology groups of options. This implies the 8SG2’s built-in GPU provides {hardware} raytracing, for instance, however not the worldwide illumination help that was launched for the flagship 8G3. The reminiscence controller can be in any other case equivalent to the 8G2, with the SoC supporting a most of 24GB of LPDDDRX-8400.
The video recording and decoding capabilities of the 8sG3 are a definite downgrade from the opposite Snapdragon 8 SoCs, nevertheless. Qualcomm has retailed their trio of 18-bit Spectra ISPs – so the SoC can help as much as 3 cameras – however all 8K help has been excised completely. As a substitute, the 8SG2 can solely document video at as much as 4K, and even then solely at 60fps, half the framerate of the 8G3/8G2. Sluggish-mo video seize has additionally been altered, as properly; Qualcomm lists 1080p240 for this mode somewhat than 720p960. The upper decision will little doubt be appreciated, however much less so if this implies it’s not potential to document above 240fps.
The dearth of 8K video help additionally applies to the SoC’s video decode block, which may solely decode movies as much as 4K in decision. Qualcomm has in any other case stored the entire underlying options of the video decode block at parity, nevertheless, so the 8sG3 will get help for AV1 decoding, together with Dolby Imaginative and prescient HDR.
In the meantime, the DSP/NPU state of affairs on the 82G3 is a blended bag. Formally, this SoC helps generative AI fashions (as much as 10B parameters in dimension), one thing the 8G2 and its NPU weren’t able to, and is in any other case solely accessible on the 8G3. Nonetheless, in accordance with Qualcomm this isn’t the identical technology of NPU IP as on the 8G3, and amongst different issues it lacks help for speculative decoding (and I don’t see any point out of the newer NPU’s micro-tile inferencing enhancements). So by all appearances, that is simply the 8G2 NPU. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has no less than rolled out some software program/firmware updates to enhance its performance, giving it further AI performance proper as exuberance for that’s by the roof.
Lastly, the comms aspect of the 82G3 is actually a slower model of the 8G2. Qualcomm is as soon as once more utilizing their Snapdragon X70 built-in modem right here, a 5G Launch 17-generation design that gives 2×2 MIMO on mmWave, and 4×4 MIMO on sub-6G. Max add speeds are unchanged, at 3.5Gbps, nevertheless max obtain speeds for the 8sG3 are 5Gbps, half that of the 8G2 (and 8G3). Paired with the X70 modem is Qualcomm’s FastConnect 7800 system, which provides Wi-Fi 7 help with 2×2 MIMO, in addition to Bluetooth 5.4. The twin BT antenna characteristic from the opposite Snapdragon 8 chips has additionally made it over for this half.
General, the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 is meant to occupy a really particular area of interest inside Qualcomm’s SoC lineup, providing a less expensive different to their flagship SoC with out giving up too many options. The advertising messaging behind the chip is made considerably sophisticated by the truth that final 12 months presently Qualcomm launched the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 for the premium market, which no less than partially overlaps what they’re attempting to do with the 8sG3. None the much less, Qualcomm insists there’s a marketplace for chips between the Snapdragon 7 collection and the flagship Snapdragon 8 SoC, and so right here we’re.
Absent one other 7+ chip this 12 months, it’s laborious to see the 8sG3 as something apart from the 7+’s successor. Nonetheless, the place the 7+ was a souped-up 7, the 8sG3 is clearly a down-market 8, so it has some vital {hardware} benefits, notably in terms of reminiscence bandwidth. It could simply be that Qualcomm aimed a bit too low for the premium market with the specs for the 7+, so that is an try and purpose a bit increased.
In any case, anticipate to see the Snapdragon 8s Gen 3 picked up by lots of the typical Chinese language handset OEMs, together with Honor, iQOO, realme, Redmi and Xiaomi. The primary telephones are anticipated to be introduced this month.